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What Do I Think When I Think God? I Try Not To. Here’s Why…

What do I think when I think God?

I try not to. It makes sense to try not to think too much of God, does it not?

I mean, how does one think of God except in ways that are limiting, loaded with ideas and assumptions that are incomplete at best and, most often, just plain wrong?

What did people in the past think when they thought God?

What Do I Think When I Think God?

What Do I Think When I Think God?

  • Most thought there were many gods.
  • Almost every tribe or group of people had at least one god.
  • Tribal gods were believed to be in competition with other tribal gods.
  • Most of the Old Testament saints thought of their god in the same way.
  • These gods were believed to live just above the sky and were always observing puny humans on earth from their lofty position above.
  • Most people believed these god would interfere with activity here on earth.
  • Followers of these gods believed by worshipping them they pleased the gods and would incur special favors from them.

There was a time in my life, and not too long ago, when I thought of God in very similar ways.

I read the Old Testament and believed the God presented there was an accurate picture and representation of God.

For example…

  • I mistakenly thought God was male, since God was always presented in such a fashion in the Old and New Testaments.
  • I believed he favored the Jews over other people, tribes, and nations since, after all, they were his “chosen” people.
  • I believed God was just above the sky and watched our behavior, as well as recorded it, so that he’d have proof on Judgment Day that we were vile beings desperately needing saving, which is why Jesus came so He could suffer the wrath of God toward my evil sinfulness and so be my Savior so I could go to God.
  • I thought of prayer as my way to inform this God above of what I needed. Furthermore, I was taught to believe that, if I truly believed that my prayers could be answered by him that was enough to persuade him to grant me my requests or give me what I believed I needed.

Sound even remotely familiar to you?

See if this is familiar, too.

It never occurred to me to think that the picture of God I saw in the stories of the Old and New Testament were often incomplete, sometimes inadequate, and quite likely full of prejudice for one person over the other. That many of these same depictions of God were filled with wrath and even petty, jealous vengeance on His part from time to time…

Further, it never occurred to me to question, Is the God I see described, talked about, and, sometimes, made to actually speak in the Old and New Testament really the real God?

Or, could it be that the stories of the Old and New Testaments are stories of people, not unlike myself, who were seeking to live their lives as faithfully as they could, inside a world and universe they barely understood, and most often, with ideas, beliefs, opinions, and notions about God and of God that were very limiting, often loaded with assumptions and presumptions, and, very likely, in many instances, just plain wrong?

Is it little wonder to you that the First Commandment is “Have no other gods before me – and – make no graven image of God” (Exodus 20)?

In his book, A Spring Within Us, author and Franciscan priest, Richard Rohr offers insightful words in this direction. He writes:

     It takes a long time for us to allow God be who God is. Our natural egocentricity wants to make God into who we want or need God to be…If God is Mystery, then God is always on some level the unfamiliar, beyond what we’re used to, beyond our comfort zone, beyond what we can explain or understand. In the fourth century, Saint Augustine said, “If you can comprehend it, it is not God.” Would you respect a God you could comprehend? And yet very often that’s what we want a God who reflects and even confirms our culture, our biases, our economic, our political and security systems…The First Commandment says that we’re not supposed to make any images of God or worship them. At first glance, we may think this deals only with handmade likenesses of God. But it mostly refers to images of God we hold in our head” (A Spring Within Us, Richard Rohr, p. 214).

Whoa!

What are the “images” or ideas of God you hold in your head?

I no longer believe that every time I read in the Bible something that God said or did or feels that I am getting the full story.

So, I make it my spiritual practice to read scripture, interpret my life experiences, and so live my life doing two things…

1. First, I question everything. Isn’t that why I’ve been given a mind? I question, for example, when I’m reading scripture, “Is this an accurate depiction of God? Did God really say this? Do this? Feel this? Or, is this a projection onto God by those writing about him?  You cannot imagine the difference it would make in how you “think” about God if you would just question what you “think” about God. Question what others think and say about God, too. Even if those “others” are people in the Bible.

Is this what they understood about God? Yes.

Is this what they believed about God? Yes.

And, consequently, should I read this story through a larger understanding, a more informed understanding and experience of God that I hope I hold today?

Again, the answer is “Yes.”

Admittedly, this “yes” could be wrong, too. Which is the part that should keep all of us humble and cautious.

Of course, we today SHOULD have a more informed understanding of God than even very devout people did a thousand years ago.

But remember this: A thousand years from now – if the world and humans are still around – people of faith will likely look and read the things we have said and believed about God and wag their heads in disbelief, asking, “Can you believe people of faith in 2017 actually believed this about God?”

2. The second thing I do is try to read and understand God through the very person whose life here on earth was the face of God – that is, through the best understanding we have of Jesus himself. That’s the stuff he presumably said and recorded in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

I know not everyone may agree with this but I happen to believe, if Jesus is God incarnate, and if the record of what he said and did is as perfectly captured as it can be in the Gospels themselves, then whoever or whatever God is must be understood in and through his life, teachings, and actions.

Saint Paul said of Jesus that He was “the image of the invisible God” (Col 1:15).

If this is true, then just about everything the saints of both the Old and New Testaments thought about God or wrote about God was wrong. Or, at a minimum, suspect.

Furthermore, much of what I was raised to believe about God is not correct either.

Further still, much of what you’ve been taught to think and believe about God is at the least slightly misinformed as well.

So, what do I think when I think God today?

Personally…

  • I believe we are all God incarnate beings, just like Jesus. He who is our brother simply understood this better than most of us do.
  • I believe Jesus was as human and you and I are human. But he believed himself to be sent from the Father above, too. Further, I believe we all descend from God as well.
  • Jesus believed himself to be one with God (John 10:30). With this profound awareness of his divine origin, he “emptied” himself, as Saint Paul put it (Phil 2) and lived fully into his humanity.
  • I don’t believe life should be any different for any of us either.

Jesus is our model. He lived as a divine being fully embracing his humanity. He struggled to do this, too, just as we all do. But he succeeded even unto – and through death itself.

How he lived and died and understood his divine origin and his purpose is my ambition for my life, too.

It is not my purpose to escape my humanity, as scores of Christians mistakenly believe they are supposed to do. They have been taught, as I was taught, that humanity is tainted and ugly and doomed to an eternity separated from God. Further, the purpose in life is to escape this humanity and be reunited with God at death.

Just the opposite of the truth we see in Jesus.

If Jesus is God incarnate, as almost all of us were taught to believe, then Jesus understood himself as having come from God and His purpose was to live into his own humanity fully, even to the point of death

  • I am a divine being, too. You are as well.
  • God lives in us.
  • We live in God, whether conscious of this Divine presence or not.
  • In fact, I believe this to be the ultimate purpose of life – to “walk with God,” as did Enoch, about whom I’ve written extensively in a book called The Enoch Factor: The Sacred Art of Knowing God.
  • This is all his doing, too, (or, her doing because, after all, God is neither male nor female, right? Right. Even the writer of Genesis said this: “God created humankind in God’s image; male and female God created them” Get. 1:27. In other words, humans reflect “God’s image” which is both “male and female.”).

My goal is to live as fully, as completely, as compassionately, and as in touch with my Divine origins as I possibly can.

This understanding of my life, my origins, and my purpose have given my life meaning.

The question is: “What gives your life meaning?”

What you “THINK” when you think God is the starting place.
When you “THINK GOD” what you think matters.
What you “THINK” when you think God be right.

It might just be wrong, too.

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3 Responses to What Do I Think When I Think God? I Try Not To. Here’s Why…

  1. Maurice Degarennier March 19, 2017 at 4:27 PM #

    Hi Steve, things have been very difficult for me over the years. An awful lot of bad luck and my thoughts have followed a similar path to yours. Honestly before I found this link I have wondered if I could walk with God as Enoch as such a close Friend that I could really be happy. Perhaps this is all nonsense as you say. But if it is really true the question is, how do we go about it? I would be very interested to get hold of a copy of your book, Best wishes, Maurice.

  2. Maurice Degarennier March 19, 2017 at 6:29 PM #

    Concerning the Bible I can simply say there are gaps in it.

  3. Sharon June 7, 2017 at 6:07 AM #

    Hi Steve,

    As I type this I am crying … Crying because I thank God for you – truly! This is all I too think and feel. My story is way too complicated to go into right here and now but it is all to do with ‘letting go’ I believe. I have had a lifetime (I’m 54 now) of being ‘bullied’ (both emotionally and spiritually) and a lifetime of illness/bad health. I came to believe many years ago in a God who was in all of us and not one who was ‘exclusive’ – rather more ‘inclusive’ – and came to realise that is the exact opposite of most Christian thinking (whether they know it or not!) I had a terrible experience after my first son was born 30 years ago which culminated with me having an ‘exorcism’ (a Christian ‘Deliverance Service’) by some church friends/elders (at the time) of my sister’s – whilst I was actually suffering from Post-natal psychosis (which they saw as ‘demonic possession’). I ended up in a psychiatric hospital for nearly 2 years and missed my son growing up!! I’ve been leading a very restricted life for many years now due to my poor health/strange symptoms (and finally got the diagnosis of ‘Fibromyalgia’ a few years ago) and, although having come to terms with this and accepting to be housebound and unable to participate in much of life, I more recently have felt that I must ‘move on’ but couldn’t seem to do so. Following some recent depression, I came across a therapy which claimed it might help with ‘letting go’ of deep emotional trauma etc. and so had this just last week … I actually felt terror beyond terror whilst having this treatment and ‘saw’ Lucifer being thrown out of heaven – resulting in (my therapist claimed and I witnessed) a visit from the Archangel Michael (the most wonderful thing in the world!) who put an end to that. However, my sister (a devout Evangelical Christian still – though no longer a church-goer herself) has been terrified of what happened, claiming my ‘healing’ (which I don’t believe I’ve quite reached yet any way) came from “the other side” … This has literally made me a nervous wreck and I’ve been going through very similar stuff and total terror these last few days – similar to that at the time of the ‘Deliverance’. I’ve actually come to the conclusion that it’s that (and not the work of the devil himself) I’m now experiencing (i.e. the feelings from that time that it all originally ‘stirred up’). I feel that once I let go of the ‘fear’ and think about God’s ‘real’ love I know I’m on the right track … These Evangelical/Fundamentalist Christians have got it SO wrong!! God’s grace is the most wonderful thing and it’s arrogant to assume or, worse still, say you ‘know’ and that you can only be ‘saved’ by their kind of religion only, and by being ‘born again’ … God is love; they are interchangeable in my opinion! He loves us all! (But of course that doesn’t mean he condones our ‘wicked’ ways – after all only ‘He’ is perfect). Suddenly everything you say makes sense (and it’s what I’ve always known any way!!!) Thank you, thank you. X 🙂

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